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Zinwell 4x4 settings?

Postby freaky » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:02 pm

I just bought a zinwell 4x4 with dish500, 2 dual legacy's, 110 and 119,
And i have dvbdream 1.4 working but having problems scanning.
Can anyone tell me the correct settings with a zinwell 4x4?
Right now i have it on diseqc set to none, port one has 110 and 119,lof 11250000,110 (22khz) off. 119 (22khz) on, with both on port 3 (the port its on with the zinwell). Is this correct?

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Re: Zinwell 4x4 settings?

Postby genpix » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:48 pm

Do you have to coax cable coming from each LNB?
Two cables from first LNB go to input Sat A of the switch, two ohers (from second LNB) - to input Sat B.
Right now i have it on diseqc set to none, port one has 110 and 119,lof 11250000,110 (22khz) off. 119 (22khz) on,
sounds correct.
with both on port 3 (the port its on with the zinwell). Is this correct?
what did you mean by that?
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Postby freaky » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:13 am

Yes two cables from one lnb to sat A (119) (22khz ON)
and two cables from second lnb into sat B (110) (22khz OFF)


freaky wrote:
with both on port 3 (the port its on with the zinwell). Is this correct?
(genpix)what did you mean by that?

Sorry about that, what i meant is the output on the 4x4 is port 3 for my dvb-s card, so my settings for 110 and 119 in dvbdream are set to port 3 on both 110 and 119.Would that be correct?
I get most channels but not like it was in DD 1.3, and i had channel list already made up from 1.3 and when my scanning wasn't working very well with 1.4 i just added the old channel list from 1.3 to 1.4 (dvbdream).
I have 82 and 91 aswell i just haven't added it to the mix with dvbdream 1.4 yet until i can the zinwell 4x4 working good with dvbdream 1.4.
So basically i will have 2 4x4 (zinwell) with birds 82,91,110,119. and i just purchased two 4x4 switches so i'm slowly trying to figure stuff out and what settings are what with each program and reciever i have. :?
And now with the new dvbdream 1.4 its hard to figure out if the problem is 1.4 or settings or my 4x4 switches. :shock:
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Zinwell Switches

Postby Redman276_2007 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:04 am

What else is hooked up to you Zinwells ??

My config is this

Coolstat 4x1 Diseqc
3 Zinwell WB 68 6x8 switches

Dish 500 for 82 and 91

Directv Andrews KaKu modded with single LNB 1 for 110 1 for 119

Dish 300 single for 61.5

my diseqc swithches are all on port 1 of all 3 zins
my SW 21 that run my IRd's are on ports 2 -6

my switch config is 119 ( 0 k) 91 ( 22k) zin 1
110 ( 0 k) 82 ( 22k ) zin 2
61.5 ( 0 k)

In order to get DD to scan the 5 sats the IRD's must be unplugged , I found that any other device polling the switch pack will cause massive Channel loss...

Hope this helps ..

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Zinwell Switches

Postby Redman276_2007 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:06 am

What else is hooked up to you Zinwells ??

My config is this

Coolstat 4x1 Diseqc
3 Zinwell WB 68 6x8 switches

Dish 500 for 82 and 91

Directv Andrews KaKu modded with single LNB 1 for 110 1 for 119

Dish 300 single for 61.5

my diseqc swithches are all on port 1 of all 3 zins
my SW 21 that run my IRd's are on ports 2 -6

my switch config is 119 ( 0 k) 91 ( 22k) zin 1
110 ( 0 k) 82 ( 22k ) zin 2
61.5 ( 0 k)

In order to get DD to scan the 5 sats the IRD's must be unplugged , I found that any other device polling the switch pack will cause massive Channel loss...

Hope this helps ..

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Postby freaky » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:06 pm

Here's my setup, 2 500 (dish) with 119,110,91,82. Two Zinwells (4x4),
4 legacy dual lnb's, 2 Captive works (800)and (premium) with twinhan 1025.
I have 119 (22khz) 110 (0khz) on one zinwell.
And 82 (22khz) and 91 (0khz) on the other zinwell.
With 3 chieta (4x1) with 110 and 119 going to port 1
and 91 and 82 going to port 2 with all 3 cheita's.
I had 110 and 119 working ok with dvbdream connected directly into the zinwell (port3) without the 4x1. Now i have all them connected with the 4x1's and i can't get anything! Your right channel lost is very bad.
I get a few transponders but not many. I tried a channel list i had before i changed to zinwell's that worked very good now with the zinwell's connected it doesn't get very many channels. Quality is bad (18%) with level (65%). I tried setting the disque in dvbdream to everything i can possibly think of. That didn't help.
Now the only bird that works 1/4 of the time is 119. 110,91,82 i can't even get anymore. If anyone has any ideas to help me out.
I will try to change the chieta (4x1) to a new one and see if that will help.

I forgot to mention the stb's work great with the Zinwell's, just not the twinhan1025 (dvbdream). That's what makes me think its a setting problem.
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Postby rel » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:29 pm

If anyone has any ideas to help me out.
which driver do you use? BDA or WDM drivers ?

On WDM drivers, Twinhan 1020a and 1030a should work fine with Diseqc . Not sure about 1025 but do a search in forums to see if they are other people that use 1025 with diseqc switch.

On BDA , they wont work. (try ScanMan's BDA_ALL device if you use BDA)

btw, some diseqc switches cause signal loss (a few dB) on the line and DVB card tuners are not that good to pick the low signals. Though, probably your problem has nothing to do with this.
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Postby TheKrell » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:30 am

Not sure about 1025 but do a search in forums to see if they are other people that use 1025 with diseqc switch.
The BDA drivers are controlling my 1025 just fine. Using a Dish Network DP34 with diseqc 1.0/2.0 selection in DD. (I haven't gotten ScanMan's BDA driver to work on my W2K system at all.)
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Postby freaky » Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:12 pm

Thanks for the help! I just copied scanman's bda_all device and i got bluescreened right off the bat. Error 878bdadevice.sys.
BDA drivers is the only driver right now available for 1025 :cry:
It works good with one zinwell 4x4 but not two, or its the 4x1's.
I might have to connect it directly to the one zinwell again until there's a fix. I hope someone is working on this fix. :twisted:
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Postby FredB » Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:58 pm

Thanks for the help! I just copied scanman's bda_all device and i got bluescreened right off the bat. Error 878bdadevice.sys.
I also have the same issue with my VP1030A, so it appears that BDA_ALL is not compatible with BDA drivers of Twinhan cards based on CX878 chipset.
(I've already mentionned this to ScanMan in another thread or by MP or email... I do not remember)
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Postby freaky » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:26 am

Really weird stuff going on here.
I swapped out the 4x1 for a sw21 and now i'm getting some channels with 82,91,119. But nothing with 110. But better than before, atleast i'm getting 3 birds now. DD 1.4c is very unstable. I find it crashing alot.
I can get most regular channels with the 3 birds but on the major channels (playboy, ppv) i can't get anything. And on certain channels there will be good signal but the screen stays black. em**ation will search for keys and says it succeeded but nothing shows up. Its really weird.
Usually when the keys are found with 110,119 that's usually it for the keys, now its almost like each channel has its own key. Same thing with 82 and 91.
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