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Postby Dreamer » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:26 pm

I mean the test version.

B2C2_direct.dev
Hum...
I also want it :wink:

Let's start competition :twisted:
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Postby BxS » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:42 am

Check PM and mail. ;)
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Postby Dreamer » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:20 am

I just see, that it should work also with r2.3, I mean diseqc motor, just patched "Sky2PCAVSrc.ax" file is needed and you have to edit BxS_SkyStar_2.ini file - change Source=MM to Source=440 when DD is closed. :D

Can anyone confirm it please? I have just one confirmation from other forum and I don't have diseqc motor. Thanks.

Edit: I think it should be part of next version of DD, since there are problems with B2C2.dev and diseqc motor - maybe it should be even enabled by default. What do you think?
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Postby Dreamer » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:05 pm

So it looks, I have the same problem with BxS driver as with b2c2 direct, some channels scanned as data:

CHANNEL
Name: "GIGA" Provider: "BetaDigital"
TRANSPONDER
12460000, H, 27500000 QPSK
Satellite: 0192 - Astra 1A-H, 2C
Signal Level:65% Quality:65%
IDs
NetwordID:133 TransponderID:5 SID:776
PIDs
Video:0 Audio: PCR=0 PMT:106 Teletext:0
DATE/TIME
28. 7. 2006 0:54:52 (GMT +1)

- tv.gusto (Data)
- 1-2-3.tv (Data)
- DELUXE MUSIC (TV)
- lastminute.TV (Data)
- JobTV24 (Data)
- imusic TV (Data)
- GIGA (Data)
- MEGA\VISION (Data)
- DAS VIERTE (Data)
- JAMBA! TV (Data)
- BData6 (Data)
- moreTV (Data)


I tried also hint from Rel, from other topic:

"try to increase timeouts for PMT and SDT , use 3x or 4x of the current values "

Result - no CHs found.

Another try:

- Nameless 12460000_SID60 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID61 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID62 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID63 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID64 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID65 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID66 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID67 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID68 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID69 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID70 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID71 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID72 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID73 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID74 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID75 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID76 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID77 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID171 (Radio)
- Nameless 12460000_SID172 (Radio)
- Nameless 12460000_SID173 (Radio)
- Nameless 12460000_SID174 (Radio)
- Nameless 12460000_SID175 (Radio)
- Nameless 12460000_SID663 (TV)


Now whole DD is freezing, strange...
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Postby Dreamer » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:21 pm

After restart, same TP, b2c2 direct - higher PMT/SDT values - result:

- lastminute.TV (Data)
- JobTV24 (Data)
- imusic TV (Data)
- GIGA (Data)
- MEGA\VISION (Data)
- DAS VIERTE (Data)
- JAMBA! TV (Data)
- BData6 (Data)
- moreTV (Data)


(other channels are TV - correct)

BxS - same result.

Then one test with b2c2:

- lastminute.TV (TV)
- JobTV24 (TV)
- imusic TV (TV)
- GIGA (TV)
- MEGA\VISION (TV)
- DAS VIERTE (TV)
- JAMBA! TV (TV)
- BData6 (Data)
- moreTV (Data)

(last CHs are probably real data CHs)

Edit: Similar problems reported also by Ron.

Edit2:
Let's start competition :twisted:
Yes - now - who will solve that scan problems first? :wink:

Edit3:

Another "bad" TPs (tested only with BxS):


12383 H 27500
- CT1 (Data)
- Sport 1 (Data)
- Hallmark (Data)
- Viasat-3 (Data)
- TV Markiza (TV)
- TV JOJ (Data)
- TV Nova (TV)
- XXX (Data)
- Prima TV (TV)
- Music Box (Data)
- Filmmuzeum (TV)
- CT4 Sport (Data)

12344 H 27500
- RTL4 (Data)
- RTL5 (Data)
- TV Oranje (Data)
- Discovery (Data)
- Animal Planet (Data)
- RTL RADIO (Data)
- RVi1 (VRT) (Data)
- MM (Data)
- RVi2 (VRT) (Data)
- EUROSPORT (Data)
- Hallmark (Data)
- RTL7 (Data)
- Cartoon/TCM (Data)

12304 H 27500
- PHILIPS DOWNLOAD 1.1 (Data)
- PHILIPS DOWNLOAD 1.2 (Data)
- Galaxie Sport (Data)
- Animal Planet (Data)
- Discovery CE (Data)
- Hir TV (Data)
- Jetix/Jetix Max (TV)
- Nat Geo (Data)
- Eurosport 2 (TV)
- Hallmark (Data)
- Hustler TV (TV)
- ZoneReality (Data)
- Extreme Sports (TV)
- ZoneClub (Data)
- UPC_EPG (Data)

12266 H 27500
- Bayern 1 (Data)
- Bayern2Radio (Data)
- Bayern 3 (Data)
- Bayern 4 Klassik (Data)
- B5 aktuell (Data)
- BAYERN MOBIL (Data)
- DAS MODUL (Data)
- BR Verkehrskanal (Data)
- DW 1 (Radio)
- DW 4 (Data)
- hr1 (Radio)
- hr2 (Data)
- hr3 (Data)
- hr4 (Data)
- YOU FM (Data)
- hr-info (Data)
- hr-info + (Data)
- MDR1 SACHSEN (Radio)
- MDR1 S-ANHALT (Data)
- MDR1 THÃœRINGEN (Data)
- MDR FIGARO (Data)
- MDR JUMP (Data)
- SPUTNIK (Data)
- MDR INFO (Data)
- NDR 2 (Radio)
- NDR Kultur (Data)
- NDR Info (Data)
- N-JOY (Data)
- NDR 90,3 (Data)
- NDR 1 Welle Nord (Data)
- NDR 1 Radio MV (Data)
- NDR 1 Niedersachsen (Data)
- NDR Info Spezial (Data)
- Bremen Eins (Radio)
- Nordwestradio (Data)
- Bremen Vier (Data)
- InfoRadio (Radio)
- kulturradio (Data)
- Antenne Brandenburg (Data)
- radioBERLIN 88,8 (Data)
- radioeins (Data)
- Fritz (Data)
- radiomultikulti (Data)
- SR1 (Radio)
- SR2 (Data)
- SR3 (Data)
- SWR1 BW (Data)
- SWR1 RP (Data)
- SWR2 (Data)
- SWR3 (Data)
- SWR4 BW (Data)
- SWR4 RP (Data)
- DASDING (Data)
- cont.ra (Data)
- Eins Live (Data)
- WDR 2 (Data)
- WDR 3 (Data)
- WDR 4 (Data)
- WDR 5 (Data)
- WDR Funkhaus Europa (Data)
- Eins Live diggi (Data)
- WDR 2 Klassik (Data)
- WDR Event (Data)
- Radio Bremen TV (Data)
- SR SÃœDWEST Ferns (Data)

12285 V 27500
- DATA SYSTEM TR94 (Data)
- AB MOTEURS (Data)
- ACTION (Data)
- CINE FX (Data)
- AB1 (Data)
- TERRA NOVA (Data)
- ZIK/XXL (Data)
- NT1 (Data)
- ANIMAUX (Data)
- ESCALES (Data)
- ENCYCLOPEDIA (Data)
- toute L'HISTOIRE (Data)
- MANGAS (Data)
- LCP (Data)
- BLOOMBERG (Data)


Now I see that I have no picture with BxS, so maybe it was a reason why all PTs were scanned just data CHs, don't know, strange, with b2c2 I have a picture now.

Switched back to BxS - I have a picture again, other sat. (13E), some tests here:

11623 V 27500 - OK
11642 H 27500 - OK
12713 V 27500 - OK

12731 H 27500 - BAD
- NationalGeo (TV)
- History (TV)
- Boomerang (TV)
- Hallmark (TV)
- Fox (TV)
- Jetix +1 (TV)
- Cartoon +1 (Data)
- Universal (Data)
- Roma Channel (Data)
- GXT (Data)
- IEPG Data (Data)


12731 H 27500 (B2C2) - OK
- NationalGeo (TV)
- History (TV)
- Boomerang (TV)
- Hallmark (TV)
- Fox (TV)
- Jetix +1 (TV)
- Cartoon +1 (TV)
- Universal (TV)
- Roma Channel (TV)
- GXT (TV)
- IEPG Data (Data)

12731 H 27500 - BxS after restart DD - OK - really strange now...
- NationalGeo (TV)
- History (TV)
- Boomerang (TV)
- Hallmark (TV)
- Fox (TV)
- Jetix +1 (TV)
- Cartoon +1 (TV)
- Universal (TV)
- Roma Channel (TV)
- GXT (TV)
- IEPG Data (Data)

12731 H 27500 - B2C2 direct also OK

Maybe you need to scan several TPs, then it doesn't works good. Too much for me, hope I helped you a bit...

But with 12460 H 27500 (19E) I have always a problem - with b2c2 direct and BxS - also when I start DD.

BTW: AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 1GB RAM, ATI RX800 256MB, SB Audigy 2 Value, SkyStar 2 rev.2.3, TechniSat DVB 4.4.0, Windows XP SP2

Sorry, maybe it looks a bit confusing now, so b2c2 direct and BxS devices have problems with some TPs, some CHs are scanned as data, with b2c2 it works good, I'll highlight "bad" TPs.
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Postby Snuffer » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:38 am

On 12,5 West Feed for ORF from F1 Germany

Freq 10965 H 13333 Are Data with B2C2 Direct and with BxS Skystar 2
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Postby Dreamer » Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:12 am

Ron's results:

r2.6d, BxS device:

12460 H 27500
- VIC-Liebevoll.tv (TV)
- wellenlaenge.tv (TV)
- Traumkontakt.tv (TV)
- VenusClub.tv (TV)
- Ringtone.TV (TV)
- EuroPoker (TV)
- Amore-TV (TV)
- Orion TV (TV)
- AAH TV Deutschland (TV)
- Flirtcafe.tv (TV)
- Uschi TV (TV)
- Liebeskanal (TV)
- VISIT-X.tv (TV)
- 6live.tv (TV)
- HMM-TV.de Sat-TV (TV)
- freistoss TV (TV)
- tele6.tv (TV)
- Sonnenstern.tv (TV)
- domradio (Ra
- domradio (Radio)
- Radio Melodie (Radio)
- Klassik Radio (Radio)
- DELUXE RADIO (Radio)
- Comedy24.FM (Radio)
- moreTV01 (Data)
- moreTV02 (Data)
- moreTV03 (Data)
- moreTV04 (Data)
- moreTV05 (Data)
- moreTV06 (Data)
- moreTV07 (Data)
- morere-T (Data)
- tv.gusto (TV)
- 1-2-3.tv (TV)
- DELUXE MUSIC (TV)
- lastminute.TV (TV)
- JobTV24 (TV)
- imusic TV (TV)
- GIGA (TV)
- MEGA\VISION (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID1793 (TV)
- Nameless 12460000_SID1794 (TV)


Another test from Ron, but don't know what revision and device:

12460 H 27500
- VIC-Liebevoll.tv (TV)
- wellenlaenge.tv (TV)
- Traumkontakt.tv (TV)
- VenusClub.tv (TV)
- Ringtone.TV (TV)
- EuroPoker (TV)
- Amore-TV (TV)
- Orion TV (TV)
- AAH TV Deutschland (TV)
- Flirtcafe.tv (TV)
- Uschi TV (TV)
- Liebeskanal (TV)
- VISIT-X.tv (TV)
- 6live.tv (TV)
- HMM-TV.de Sat-TV (TV)
- freistoss TV (TV)
- tele6.tv (TV)
- Sonnenstern.tv (TV)
- domradio (Radio)
- Radio Melodie (Radio)
- Klassik Radio (Radio)
- DELUXE RADIO (Radio)
- Comedy24.FM (Radio)
- moreTV01 (Data)
- moreTV02 (Data)
- moreTV03 (Data)
- moreTV04 (Data)
- moreTV05 (Data)
- moreTV06 (Data)
- moreTV07 (Data)
- moreTV08 (Data)
- moreTV09 (Data)
- moreTV10 (Data)
- tv.gusto (TV)
- 1-2-3.tv (TV)
- DELUXE MUSIC (TV)
- lastminute.TV (Data)
- JobTV24 (Data)
- imusic TV (Data)
- GIGA (Data)
- MEGA\VISION (Data)
- DAS VIERTE (Data)
- JAMBA! TV (Data)
- BData6 (Data)
- moreTV (Data)
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Postby BxS » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:50 pm

I just see, that it should work also with r2.3, I mean diseqc motor, just patched "Sky2PCAVSrc.ax" file is needed and you have to edit BxS_SkyStar_2.ini file - change Source=MM to Source=440 when DD is closed. :D

Can anyone confirm it please? I have just one confirmation from other forum and I don't have diseqc motor. Thanks.

Edit: I think it should be part of next version of DD, since there are problems with B2C2.dev and diseqc motor - maybe it should be even enabled by default. What do you think?
Yes, the BxS_SkyStar_2 device when in B2C2v4.4.0 mode work with SS2 r2.3 and r2.6 :)

Yes, when using the patched DS filter raw diseqc commands are supported for r2.3 and r2.6 :D

To be honest I found a way of support raw diseqc commands without the patched file :) , maybe in a new version :wink:

When using BxS_SkyStar_2 device in M.Majoor mode it only support SS2 r2.6, but also support raw diseqc commands.
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Postby BxS » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:02 pm

1 - The only thing that my device file and the rel device file do is tune a transponder and send to DD the Transport Stream data, so if are not happening something really strange, the problem are not the device files.

2 - Long time ago I made a channel scan, so I learned how it works, if the problem are the channel name, the problem are in PSI - SDT tables, try to increase the time to get it.

3 - If the problem continues after the increase time to get SDT table, the problem is almost probably in the data that comes in the transponder or maybe in the algo that DD is using.
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Postby BxS » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:22 pm

Dreamer, did you tested with my device file in MM mode?

If you still have problems, I'm almost sure that is the problem is the (3-) in the previous post.

About competition, I also will update the B2C2 mode but not a prioority, my priority for now will be the MM mode when I have time, maybe next week, and then a new transponder finder :wink:
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Postby BxS » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:42 pm

Well I made some quick tests and I think that I found the problem with the channels seen as data.

When I start developing the BxS_SkyStar_2 I found that exist a problem with DD v1.1g when I try to scan channels, the problem was with DD so I contacted rel and I tested a new DD that rel made and I said that the problem was solved :roll: , well seems that I didn't made many tests :oops:

To solve the problem, for now, until a new DD comes out, for BxS_SkyStar_2, go to Options->Device Options and check the Full Transport Stream

For B2C2 from rel do the same, for B2C2_direct forget, it don't send the Full TS, so you will have to wait for a new DD.

Hope it help, at least for the tests that I made it worked :wink:
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Postby Dreamer » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:04 pm

Dreamer, did you tested with my device file in MM mode?

If you still have problems, I'm almost sure that is the problem is the (3-) in the previous post.

About competition, I also will update the B2C2 mode but not a prioority, my priority for now will be the MM mode when I have time, maybe next week, and then a new transponder finder :wink:
I have only r2.3 card, so I can't test in MM mode.
If the problem continues after the increase time to get SDT table, the problem is almost probably in the data that comes in the transponder or maybe in the algo that DD is using.
I have always this problem with b2c2_direct.dev and BxS_SkyStar_2.dev (440 mode) at least on this TP: 12460, H, 27500 - video channels scanned as data, with b2c2.dev no problems. I don't know where is the problem...
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Postby Snuffer » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:55 pm

I have here :

PC 1 SS2 Revision 2.6 C with orginal DD B2C2 driver
PC 2 SS2 Revision 2.6 D with BxS Skystar 2 Using MM driver

With both systems i have Feeds as Data.

The second list that Dreamer shows from Ron are from PC 2

Hope you can do some with this info.

And BxS i look out for new T.Finder
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Postby rel » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:38 am

beta1 is about to be released for beta testers.

it works better with b2c2_direct and other devices here. B2C2 direct has full TS support and raw diseqc for Mibi's drivers now.
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Postby BxS » Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:46 am

Thanks, rel

Than we can see if the all problems disappear or not :wink:

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