v1.4b - small stable freezing (VMR only ?)

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v1.4b - small stable freezing (VMR only ?)

Postby rel » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:05 am

please confirm this here, if you notice it again in v1.4c

(I've just cut the previous thread. :) )
Channel changing is OK now in 1.4b, but small stable freezes are still there, but only with VMR9. In v1.3c it's all working good - same channels/codecs/renderers/settings/ch. list/plugins...
ok , can you try by disabling the log file again?

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Postby Dreamer » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:58 pm

No log / no timeshift / no delay for stability while ch. changing.

Important! Switch between these 2 channels to reproduce the freezing:

CHANNEL
Name: "CT24" Provider: "UPC Direct"
TRANSPONDER
12382, H, 27500 QPSK
19.2°E (0192 - Astra 1A-H, 2C)
Signal: 39% Quality: 31%
VIDEO
4:2:0 480x576 25fps 249kbps 4:3
IDs
NetwordID: 1 TransponderID: 1099 ServiceID: 20316
PIDs
Video: 151 Audio: 161 - cze (ISO13818)
PCR: 151 PMT: 150 Teletext: 0
EMMs: 5001 (SELECTED), 5003
DATE/TIME
9. 11. 2007 1:58:52 (GMT +1)

CHANNEL
Name: "imusic TV" Provider: "BetaDigital"
TRANSPONDER
12460, H, 27500 QPSK
19.2°E (0192 - Astra 1A-H, 2C)
Signal: 38% Quality: 27%
VIDEO
4:2:0 480x576 25fps 159kbps 4:3
IDs
NetwordID: 133 TransponderID: 5 ServiceID: 772
PIDs
Video: 495 Audio: 496 - deu (ISO13818)
PCR: 495 PMT: 146 Teletext: 0
DATE/TIME
9. 11. 2007 2:13:23 (GMT +1)

nVidia (v0.0.0.227 - 25. 2. 2003)
nVidia (v0.0.0.227 - 25. 2. 2003)
- crashed almost every time I tried, it's even worse now, it's very hard to kill the application, error dialogs and DD is freezing - Win task manager doesn't work, I have to use the task bar, select close few times... I'll try the newer version later (but with 1.3c it's working perfect)

CyberLink (v4.0.0.113 - 17. 12. 2002)
CyberLink (v5.0.0.33 - 5. 8. 2003)
- overlay/vmr - no freezing
- vmr9 - doesn't work

CyberLink (New) (v8.0.0.126 - 18. 7. 2007)
CyberLink (v5.0.0.33 - 5. 8. 2003)
- vmr/vmr9 - stable freezing
- overlay - stable freezing

InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
- vmr/vmr9 - no freezing
- overlay - no (or just very small) freezing

ATI (v9.15.0.233 - 13. 7. 2007)
ATI (v9.15.0.233 - 13. 7. 2007)
- vmr/vmr9 - stable freezing
- overlay - stable freezing

Sonic DVB (v2.5.3.16 - 26. 3. 2003)
InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
- any renderer - big freezing, even without channel changing

FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
- doesn't work at all, DD is freezes up, but also with v1.3c - it was working good before, the same version, strange, I need to check it - could anyone else test the new ffdshow version with DD please?

All codecs are working perfect in v1.3c (except ffdshow now), same ch. list, settings, channels...

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Postby saentist » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:21 am

to make ffdshow work
install last version www.free-codecs.com
go to config and enable MPEG2 Decoding
see in codec program permision isn't DD blocked
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Postby FredB » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:43 pm

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Postby Dreamer » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:50 pm

saentist - thanks, but it was just some strange problem, it's working now.

So here is report for ffdshow:

FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
- with "Reset DS after channel chnage" disabled there are old problems - delay, fast play, then it's OK - if enabled, it works good
- overlay - doesn't work (also in 1.3c)
- vmr/vmr9 - small, or very small stable freezing

Can anyone else confirm the freezing?? Please check at least Sonic, there is big freezing, also without channel changing, check this version and channel:

Sonic DVB (v2.5.3.16 - 26. 3. 2003)

19.2°E 12382,H,27500 CT24 (UPC Direct) 4:2:0 (FTA)
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Postby rel » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:10 am

both sonic and ffdshow works fine here with v1.4d now
I have tested with the exact sonic version
and FFDShow (v1.0.3.36 - 7/1/2007)

please test it in v1.4d
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Postby oMikR0n » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:39 am

give us 1.4d :D
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Postby faam » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:09 am

what is the fixes in v1.4d
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Postby rel » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:26 am

give us 1.4d :D
what is the fixes in v1.4d
why do you fill the forum up with unnecessary posts like that? :shock:

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Postby faam » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:02 am

Ok
Sorry do not be angry

I had test FFdshow video "ffdshow_rev1579_20071026_xxl"
with Nvidia New Audio
works fine with stable freezes on rewind and fforward on timeshfit the window blinks
3 times before play this is with VMR not tested on VMR9
This is on 1.4c

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Postby Dreamer » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:35 pm

1.4d (differences between c and d are highlighted):

No log / no timeshift / no delay for stability while ch. changing.

Important! Switch between these 2 channels to reproduce the freezing - always test on CT24 - it's the best channel to test (watch the moving text):

CHANNEL
Name: "CT24" Provider: "UPC Direct"
TRANSPONDER
12382, H, 27500 QPSK
19.2°E (0192 - Astra 1A-H, 2C)
Signal: 39% Quality: 31%
VIDEO
4:2:0 480x576 25fps 249kbps 4:3
IDs
NetwordID: 1 TransponderID: 1099 ServiceID: 20316
PIDs
Video: 151 Audio: 161 - cze (ISO13818)
PCR: 151 PMT: 150 Teletext: 0
EMMs: 5001 (SELECTED), 5003
DATE/TIME
9. 11. 2007 1:58:52 (GMT +1)

CHANNEL
Name: "imusic TV" Provider: "BetaDigital"
TRANSPONDER
12460, H, 27500 QPSK
19.2°E (0192 - Astra 1A-H, 2C)
Signal: 38% Quality: 27%
VIDEO
4:2:0 480x576 25fps 159kbps 4:3
IDs
NetwordID: 133 TransponderID: 5 ServiceID: 772
PIDs
Video: 495 Audio: 496 - deu (ISO13818)
PCR: 495 PMT: 146 Teletext: 0
DATE/TIME
9. 11. 2007 2:13:23 (GMT +1)

nVidia (v0.0.0.227 - 25. 2. 2003)
nVidia (v0.0.0.227 - 25. 2. 2003)
- vmr/vmr9 - works perfect, no freezing/crashing thanks Rel!
- overlay - stable, very good visible freezing


CyberLink (v4.0.0.113 - 17. 12. 2002)
CyberLink (v5.0.0.33 - 5. 8. 2003)
- overlay/vmr - no freezing
- vmr9 - doesn't work

CyberLink (New) (v8.0.0.126 - 18. 7. 2007)
CyberLink (v5.0.0.33 - 5. 8. 2003)
- vmr/vmr9 - no freezing!
- overlay - stable freezing

InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
- vmr/vmr9 - no freezing
- overlay - no freezing

ATI (v9.15.0.233 - 13. 7. 2007)
ATI (v9.15.0.233 - 13. 7. 2007)
- vmr/vmr9 - minor, quite stable freezing
- overlay - stable freezing

Sonic DVB (v2.5.3.16 - 26. 3. 2003)
InterVideo (v8.0.6.109 - 20. 3. 2007)
- any renderer - it's better, sometimes there is no freezing, but after channel change freezing is back - but not so big, just small freezing

FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
FFDShow (v1.0.4.11 - 30. 10. 2007)
- with "Reset DS after channel chnage" disabled there are old problems - delay, fast play, then it's OK - if enabled, it works good
- overlay - doesn't work (also in 1.3c)
- vmr/vmr9 - very small stable freezing

I have the freezing (with some codecs) also in 1.3c now, don't know why, perhaps the new filters... All codecs were working perfect with 1.3c when I have tested them few days ago.
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Postby faam » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:07 am

Small stable freezes with timeshfit and log disabled with VMR
DScaler Video
Nvidia New Audio

no crashes
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Postby chrums » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:47 am

Channels turn on in 1.4d longer than in 1.4c. This looks so that he the painting the moment is motionless (about 1s) after the inclusion of the channel and touches after moments . Something is in the version 1.4x not so from some codek. The version 1.3c works however the most quickly but my card works from 1.4x well. I have the small hint to let go 1.4 with the responsible engine for the video from 1.3c (as yet to the inspection)
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Postby fafik » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:50 am

Version 1.4d I have same symptoms. CPU ussage about 30% and freezings. When I change codecs to Cyberlink seems ok. But its reapires on some channels. I supose channels with high FEC. Its starts from version 1.4; 1.3c works fine.
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Postby rel » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:16 am

@Dreamer, is there still picture-freeze problems in latest vesion on those 19.2 channels?
(I don't have access to 19.2e to test at the moment, my motorized system has got broken, *I'm fixed to 13e*)
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