{BDA hauppauge hvr-4000} DVB-S2 and diseqc doesnt work

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{BDA hauppauge hvr-4000} DVB-S2 and diseqc doesnt work

Postby DaRulah » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:52 am

hi, i have a weird problem with dvbdream & dvb-s2, i can't scan astra's mpeg4 channels at all, why?

i have a hauppauge hvr-4000 with updated drivers, win xp pro sp2.
tried with BDA Native, and ScanMan's BDA, still the same..

Hauppauge hvr-4000 / Astra 19.0E / Windows XP Pro SP2
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Postby ScanMan » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:17 am

This is a known prob - also with Nova-S2.
Seems to depend on the driver(s) which may be not as compatible to BDA as they should do.
If anybody has a solution... let me know !
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Postby bud » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:49 pm

This is a known prob - also with Nova-S2.
Seems to depend on the driver(s) which may be not as compatible to BDA as they should do.
If anybody has a solution... let me know !
:? ScanMan
this is no problem with the driver, DvbViewer scan all HD-S2 with the driver.
with the follow - it is possible to scan HD-S2

@rel
maybe rel can it possible??


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"_DeviceInstance_01"="STREAM#HCW88BDA.M69XX#"
"_DeviceName_01"="Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-S/S2 Tuner/Demod"
"DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK"=dword:00000015
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_8_9"=dword:00000108
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_9_10"=dword:00000109
"DTV_BDA_MOD_8PSK"=dword:0000001b
"DTV_PutBDAInfoMethod"=dword:00000002
"DTV_LNBSwitchMethod"=dword:00000002
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Postby ScanMan » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:00 am

AFAIK DVB-S2 and the dependent settings / constants are not yet defined in MS DirectShow SDK-headers.

Where do you got those definitions from ?
E.g. in according to the MS-headers these consts are not defined and must be a creation of Hauppoauge:
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_8_9"=dword:00000108
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_9_10"=dword:00000109
"DTV_BDA_MOD_8PSK"=dword:0000001b

The value for 8PSK is defined as BDA_MOD_MAX there.
I tried to test seceral values with my TwinHan 1041 - this wont work.
But it can work with Hauppauge ?!

I can change the interface a little bit to load specific values to set these params.

:?: ScanMan
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Postby bud » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:32 am

AFAIK DVB-S2 and the dependent settings / constants are not yet defined in MS DirectShow SDK-headers.

Where do you got those definitions from ?
E.g. in according to the MS-headers these consts are not defined and must be a creation of Hauppoauge:
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_8_9"=dword:00000108
"DTV_BDA_BCC_RATE_9_10"=dword:00000109
"DTV_BDA_MOD_8PSK"=dword:0000001b

The value for 8PSK is defined as BDA_MOD_MAX there.
I tried to test seceral values with my TwinHan 1041 - this wont work.
But it can work with Hauppauge ?!

I can change the interface a little bit to load specific values to set these params.

:?: ScanMan
this defination is from PowerCinema Registry,

for Premiere HD the
"DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK"=dword:00000015
is ok
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Postby rel » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:26 am


this defination is from PowerCinema Registry,

for Premiere HD the
"DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK"=dword:00000015
is ok
what is the difference between DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK and DTV_BDA_MOD_8PSK?

isn't the transponder (which broadcasts the PremiereHD) 8PSK ?

NBC_QPSK ?? = QPSK or 8PSK or ?
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Postby bud » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:17 am

[quote="rel
what is the difference between DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK and DTV_BDA_MOD_8PSK?

isn't the transponder (which broadcasts the PremiereHD) 8PSK ?

NBC_QPSK ?? = QPSK or 8PSK or ?[/quote]

PremiereHD - QPSK - 0,35Roll - Pilot Symbols off
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Postby ScanMan » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:39 am

I assume these values will be set for BDA-initialisation and will be written to the registry under section 'TuningSpaces'.

Either you can read the definitions of those constants in the dependet MS SDK-headers or also the exact 1:1 translation for Delphi: DirectShow9.pas in the DSPack 2.3.4

DTV_BDA_MOD_NBC_QPSK with a value of 15 must be the same as BDA_MOD_512QAM - which is normally used for DVB-C.

A modulation type like 8PSK isn't defined anywhere !
I use BDA_MOD_8VSB (23) - that works fine with several cards.

I Hauppauge needs other values and/or setting up the BDA, the simliest way would be that Hauppauge simply tell that to the proggers...
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Postby ScanMan » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:43 am

... and everbody tell to set Roll-Off to 0,35 and Pilot off or on.
Where the hell are those params to be set ????
I read nearly all of MS documention in the msdn - but nowhere those params are to be found.
Must be something tricky and secret ???!!!
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Postby Sebastiii » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:49 pm

Hi,

I hope you can find this option, because if i try with dvbviewer too, it works.

So we can succes to put in dvbdream :)

Good luck :)

I'm owner hvr-4000 and Technotrend S2-3600 (it work with your drivers :) )
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Any good News for AVR 4000 ?

Postby gunx » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:45 am

With Hauppage AVR 4000 no problem at installation,but no scan results
at diseqc with 4 dishes. Is this problem solved? scan command possibly have no reaction on LNB s, any help would be appreciated.
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Postby rotarum » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:48 pm

yes i can confirm too. with my Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 no hd channels are found on scan with dvbdream !!
in dvbviewer its possible to scan for premiere hd but only in version 3.9 pro with activated special option called "new tuning method".

maybe rel can do same for next dvbdream release, this would be great if its possible :D
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Postby jgar666 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:27 pm

Progdvb BDA drivers had same problem in past, no diseqc work.

But they solved it in last versions (4.8x) just some weeks ago.

No way to ask him how they solved the diseqc problems?
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Postby jgar666 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:54 am

Any way to solve that bda driver diseqc problem like dvbviewer or progdvb made?

They use also bda drivers.

I see lot of other people with bda cards (not hauppauge) that also have problems with diseqc using bda (videomate/DVBWorld).

If I can help in anything, sending to you logs or registry entries.

Thanks
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Re

Postby gunx » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:54 am

Dear jgar666
I have nearly the same computer configuration as you mentioned at your
signature, please explain explicitely how you tackled DVBD to work at your
system.
best Regards and Thank you i.Adv.
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