30$ haup card works better then my 200$ skywalker lol

[genpix]

I am simpley stating that I think the one I bought is bad. Thats not saying that everyone you made was bad, but for some unknown reason you refuse to believe that.

Unknown reason?!
Didn't I say already that I test every single genpix device before I sent it out?
Your SkyWalker-1 worked fine here, with both legacy and diseqc switches.

Thus, I have a very well known reason to doubt that your SkyWalker-1 can not control diseqc switches.

I am not the first person who has bought one of these cards and hooked it up to pre-existing cable lines, your crazy if you think everyone who buys a skywalker is rewireing there house.

I'm tired of customers who ignore the grounding requirements. I have one who killed LNB controller already twice. I explain him why his grounding was wrong, and why it killed LNB controller (after first repair). He simply ignored that. And now he killed another one (two weeks after the first repair).
Am I crazy stating that incorrect grounding voids the warranty on genpix receiver?
Is DishNetwork crazy stating that incorrect grounding voids the warranty on their receivers?

I repeat "grounding requirements" over and over again, on every forum, but still there are customers out there which use the following "logic": if nothing happened with my another receiver then my grounding is OK. They don't bother to check how their antenna is grounded, they simply assume that it's grounded, and reply back "my dish is properly grounded" or "my dish is professionally installed".

[samcraig]

the thing about the grounding is ive stated time and time again how my coax was grounded, wich is by all means the propper way. ive even taken it a step further by purchasing a grounding rod and installing a ground directly below the grounding block. I was smart enough to check my grounding before I installed and by my eye and everything i read online it was fine.
I understand that you say you test every one before you send but this doesnt mean its correct. I used to install modchips in ps2s and everyone i installed i tested and it worked but there were a few that didnt work by the time it got to the customer. all it takes is 1 loose sotter point.
i will try it once i borrow a meter from someone. 1 question, if i bring the diseqc inside to test it will take away the ground completely and by your own words could ruin the skywalker and is the number 1 reason the diseqc doesnt work. so how would this prove anything?

[genpix]

Either you don't listen to what I say, or you try to play with words.
I never said that "no grounding" can kill SkyWalker.
I was always saying "incorrect grounding can kill SkyWalker".

As to "1 loose sotter point":
I have no idea what you meant by that.
But according to your own observation, if you connect just one LNB to diseqc switch, your SkyWalker-1 can switch from port to port. When you connect second LNB, it stops.
Which means that your SkyWalker-1 does send diseqc commands (and they are working fine with normal load).
But when you increase the load, 22kHz signal attenuation on the long coax cable exceeds the acceptable level, and diseqc switch stops understanding tone commands.

These are your observations, not mine.
Thus, we may exclude cold solder (or whatever you meant by "1 loose sotter point").

There are several components which can increase low-frequency signal attenuation (they are all additive):
1) long coax cable
2) wet coax cable
3) nail in the coax-cable (or hole from the nail).
4) flimsy RF connector (screw-on type, for instance)
5) wet RF connector
6) bad LNB (drains too much current)
7) weak connection (for instance, in grounding block)
8) corroded coax-cable (it's probably the same as weak connection).

[samcraig]

Either you don't listen to what I say, or you try to play with words.
I never said that "no grounding" can kill SkyWalker.
I was always saying "incorrect grounding can kill SkyWalker".

Ok so thats confusing.

Which means that your SkyWalker-1 does send diseqc commands (and they are working fine with normal load).
But when you increase the load, 22kHz signal attenuation on the long coax cable exceeds the acceptable level, and diseqc switch stops understanding tone commands.

There are several components which can increase low-frequency signal attenuation (they are all additive):
1) long coax cable

I asked before if moving the diseqc into the house closer to the skywalker would help, instead of outside next to the dish, and you said no. your actual words were

my diseqc switch is near the dish. And I check all SkyWalkers with this switch before sending them out.

So, you don't need to bring the switch closer to receiver.

I was planning on moving the new diseqc next to the skywalker anyway. Ive read to many posts on diseqc problems and it seems to help.

[genpix]

I asked before if moving the diseqc into the house closer to the skywalker would help, instead of outside next to the dish, and you said no. your actual words were

my diseqc switch is near the dish. And I check all SkyWalkers with this switch before sending them out.

So, you don't need to bring the switch closer to receiver.

I was planning on moving the new diseqc next to the skywalker anyway. Ive read to many posts on diseqc problems and it seems to help.

My switch is working fine because I installed it myself, terminated and installed cables myself, grounded dish/switch myself.
There is NO leakage in the system. Thus, switch works just fine.

Cable length does attenuate the 22kHz tone, but cable length alone can not cause the problem you see. It should be about 200ft or longer to start to see noticeable effect. Since your LNBs are legacy, installer had no rights to use anything longer then 100ft.
But cable length can contribute to the total attenuation.
That's why I said (and you quoted): they are all additive.

[samcraig]

Wanted to update you on the situation genpix. I picked up another dish last week so I could get 61.5 and after i got it set up I decided to move the diseqc into the house instead of outside. Now it is 6 feet from the skywalker and it works perfect. So I will be the first to apologize for some of the comments ive made, but this thing could have been all done along time ago when i asked if moving closer would be better. Ive checked with all 3 of my diseqcs and they all work wonderfuly so thankyou for the wonderful product and please keep in mind that if someone has problems its not always the ground. You may want to ask them to move the diseqc closer to see if that fixes the problem.