Diseqc setting for a Dishpro twin LNB?

[nakedlunch451]

I'm trying to get the proper Diseqc settings for a Dishpro Twin LNB.

Currently, I have MyTheatre 3.38 running perfectly and getting almost 800 channels on BEV 82 and 91. However, I peak at 100% sometimes with HD channels, whereas DVDDREAM runs at about 40%, so I'm trying to switch.

I'd like to know how to set the Diseqc settings in Dvbdream. Right now I can only get sat 82, I can't switch to 91 because I think I have to set the diseqc addresses like I had to do in Mytheatre (11 instead of 10).

What settings do I need to change to work with my DP twin LNB? Do I need the "special" transponder .ini's designed for DP, or the regular ones? What's the proper diseqc setting: none, mini?

Thanks for your help.

[nakedlunch451]

So, not a clue? Anyone?

MyTheatre works fine, except for taking too much resources (80-100% CPU), so I know my equipment and drivers are fine. But I can't get DD to switch from sat 91 to 82 and back in DD.

Any advice from someone running DD with a DP twin LNB and no external switches? What are your diseqc settings?

Can't find anything on Google about this. i can't possibly be the only guy trying to run DD with a DP twin LNB, can I?

[jerryt]

I select "None" for diseqc switch then "Raw Commands" and enter the commands below. Can't help you with DP stuff.

Here are the standard Committed and Uncommitted raw commands;

Committed lnb1 raw command E0 10 38 F0
Committed lnb2 raw command E0 10 38 F4
Committed lnb3 raw command E0 10 38 F8
Committed lnb4 raw command E0 10 38 FC
Uncommitted lnb1 raw command E0 10 39 F0
Uncommitted lnb2 raw command E0 10 39 F1
Uncommitted lnb3 raw command E0 10 39 F2
Uncommitted lnb4 raw command E0 10 39 F3


The format for the raw command is E0 10 39 F0 E0 10 38 F0

no comas, wait times "W244" or brackets[] just the two commands.

[genpix]

in case E0 10 38 Fx does not work, try
E0 11 38 Fx
11 (instead of 10) is an address of integrated diseqc switches.

As jerryt said before:
input 1 - E0 11 38 F0
input 2 - E0 11 38 F4
input 3 - E0 11 38 F8
input 4 - E0 11 38 FC

also, as jerryt said before, use "none" as a diseqc switch.

Cause raw commands are send in addition to (not instead of) standard DISEqC commands. Thus, you need NO standard commands - > that is "none" as a switch.

Use DP LNB settings (it would insure that DVB dream always uses 18V), and normal INI file.
DVB Dream knows how to work with DP LNBs

[nakedlunch451]

Thanks jerryt and genpix. I've already tried every combination of hex addresses (including your suggestions), the da** thing still won't work. If it weren't for MT working perfectly, I'd suspect a hardware problem.

This weekend I'm going to try installing two dual legacy LNBs with a SW34 switch and see how that works.

[canadalfb]

I"ve been following this post ..i've been trying to do the same thing.

I've got a DP dish with two dual lnbs pointed at 110 and 119 with a DN SW21 switch on a Twinhan VP 1020a card

When I bought the switch I was told the SW21 would work - it was the same one the store owner used, but I can't get it to work at all

I tried ....
Set switch to none and added the follwing RAW command...E0 10 39 F0 E0 10 39 F1

119 set at E0 10 39 F0 (UNCOMMITTED LNB1) - get good signal & channels change ok.

Set 110 on the following

E0 10 38 F0 (COMMITTED LNB1) Set "uncommited switch port" to "0"
E0 10 38 F4 (COMMITTED LNB2) Set "uncommitted switch port to "4"
E0 10 39 F1 (UNCOMMITTED LNB2) Set Uncommitted switch port to "disable"

E0 11 38 F4 (ALT. COMMITTED LNB2)Set "uncommitted switch port to "4"
E0 11 39 F1 (ALT. COMMITTED LNB2)Set Uncommitted switch port to "disable"

each time i did not get a signal on 110 on any tp

Now I was assuming I had to put the same command under the properties for both sats
also both sats 22khz were set to "controlled by lof-sw"

I also tried putting the raw command for each sat separately..

eg...110 has only E0 10 39 F1 and 119 has only E0 10 39 F0

but when i did a shan i only got channels for 119

I've tried using NA legacy lnbs and NA DP lnbs, but no difference.

I'm using the WDM driver for my card...i'm a bit hesitant on installing the BDA driver ---i've had issues updating the driver in the past, but if i need to I'll give it a shot.

What am I doing wrong??

[genpix]

I've got a DP dish with two dual lnbs pointed at 110 and 119 with a DN SW21 switch on a Twinhan VP 1020a card

There is no such thing as "DP dish".
Dish does not have active components, it's just a reflector.
sw21 is a legacy switch.
You can NOT mix legacy switches and DP LNBs (as well as, DP switches and legacy LNBs).

legacy switches do NOT understand DISEqC commands.

MT does not control legacy switches.
buy simple diseqc switch ($5 on eBay).

[canadalfb]

sorry i ment a dish network "dishpro" dish (short form DP)...oops

[canadalfb]

also i'v already tried a c00lsat diseqc 1.2 4x1 switch changing the cables to every port but i can only get one sat.

i understand the workings of the hardware!!! i know the dish itself does not have any "active components" as you put it.

I'm new to dream....not fta.

[canadalfb]

ok..i don't know if this is progress or not, but here's what i've got....


Using DN SW21...
Switch set to "none" & using raw commands...
110 has only E0 10 39 F1 / lof set at 11250000
119 has only E0 10 39 F0 / lof set at 11700000

This managed to switch my problem..i now only get 110 whereas before i was getting only 119 (both lof were set at 11250000 before).

For those who don't want to read back...here's my delema....

Hardware: D ish N etwork satellite dish with 2 dual lnbs (110&119)
D ish N etwork SW21 Switch
Twinhan VP 1020a with WDM 2.4.1 Driver
Software : DVBDream

I'm trying to get switch to work for both sats.

[genpix]

if you not "new to FTA", you should know that
sw21 is a legacy switch.
it has nothing to do with diseqc. Why do you use DISEqC commands ???
you should know what LOF is (why the hell do you use 11700000 ??? ).
if you don't, go back to "guides for dummies"

PS: LOF is a property of LNB (and nothing else). If you did not change LNB, why did you change LOF ?

added: i guess, you don't know what FTA stands for either.
FTA is for Free To Air, not for pirated-satellite-transmission.
You simply can not be an FTA-enthusiast (true FTA) without basic knowledge of satellite transmission/reception, LOF, diseqc, tone-switches, etc.

[canadalfb]

look...i came here to get help...i admit i'm not a "all-knowing expert" like you genpix...

i came to the DVBDream forum because I'm trying to set up DVBDream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you're not going to offer any useful information on the switch settings I would like to ask that you leave well enough alone.

I didn't figure that bashing people is a form of "help"

So I will ask one last time....WHAT SETTINGS DO I NEED TO USE FOR MY SETUP?????????????

if you're so wise in the ways of FTA (which I do know do not stand for FREE TRADE AGREEMENT!) ANSWER MY BLEEDING QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Killerv]

Boy, it seems genpix is having a bad day. Well first off, if you have a DP LNB, you will need a special .ini. Here's mine for 82 (that's all I use DVBDream for)


[SATTYPE]
1=2780
2=Nimiq 2 - 82 West DP
[DVB]
0=28
1=12224,V,20000,56
2=13361,V,20000,56
3=12253,V,20000,56
4=13332,V,20000,56
5=12282,V,20000,56
6=13303,V,20000,56
7=12311,V,20000,56
8=13274,V,20000,56
9=12341,V,20000,56
10=13245,V,20000,56
11=12370,V,20000,56
12=13216,V,20000,56
13=12399,V,20000,56
14=13186,V,20000,56
15=12428,V,20000,56
16=13157,V,20000,56
17=12457,V,20000,56
18=13128,V,20000,56
19=12486,V,20000,56
20=13099,V,20000,56
21=12516,V,20000,56
22=13070,V,20000,56
23=12545,V,20000,56
24=13041,V,20000,56
25=12574,V,20000,56
26=13012,V,20000,56
27=12603,V,20000,56
28=12982,V,20000,56

[LNB]



Don't aske me how to edit it, I don't know how, I just use it & it works. I'm no expert at all, but I got mine working, and I won't call you an a-hole for not knowing hexidecimal quantitations and rocket science like genpix knows so much about.

So, you open up 2780.ini in your transponders folder in dvbdream, then replace it's contents with the above ini. Then in Diseq Settings change the Switch type to "v1.0 or v2.0". Add 91w to Port 1 & 82W to Port 2. All you need to set in the Satellite settings is LOF Settings-LNB Type-NA Bandstacked DP Ku-Hi (DBS) for both (this tells the program that you got a DP LNB. Again, I make no claims to be an expert, but I like to help if I can, without being an ass.

[genpix]

WRONG advise!!!

you do NOT need special INI. I would stay away from modified INI files (especially if you don't know what are you modifying).
Don't confuse people.
DVB dream works fine with standard INI (if DP LNB is properly described in DD config, as you correctly described above).

PS: he does not have DP LNBs, he has "DP dish" (which I never heard about, by the way)
Also, you are missing the point: he insists on using legacy switch (sw21).
But he still can not grasp the concept that DD (or MT) are not able to control legacy switches.

[canadalfb]

ok...genpix.. i took the sw21 switch back and got a diseqc 2.0 4x1 switch...if only the guy at the fta store sold me that in the first place. Every time I went back he told me the sw21 was the one he used with the same card i had.

anyway the diseqc worked...everything is good now.

to all the nice people, thanks for your help...i've got mine working!!!!