upgraded from x1600 to 2600xt and lost HD playback

[no1ninja]

Hi guys,

I LOVE THIS PROGRAM!!!!


However, I just put in a Sapphire HD 2600XT today and lost my HD playback. I used to run a X1600PRO HDMI.

I use the ATI codec... everything was fine until I chaged cards.

I still get STD channels... just the HDTV is blank.


Any sollutions?

[no1ninja]

I noticed the h.264 codec is grayed out, is there a way to change it?

Or on install it and install it?

[Dreamer]

Strange, try to change a video renderer and apply changes. Perhaps it's grayed out because there is no other codec, you could try to install another H.264 codec.

However it might be blocked by ATI driver / CCC, so you could try also the alternative ATI drivers - Omega...

[no1ninja]

Ok I think I have it under control... I am able to play recorded h.264 stuff... so it must be working... the reason I can't test it is because my HDTV feed went down because of other reasons.

It coinsided with my upgrade, so it was easy to think that it was because of the card swap.



Anybody else using a HD 2600xt with dvbdream? How does it handle your HDTV?

[ScanMan]

Some curios probs here with HD:
DD tunes well - but no pic and sound because Audio-renderer is always marked red. I can't use Default DS or RealTek AC97. The graph won't be build by DD.
It doesn't matter trying Cyberlink H264 oder CorAVC 1.5.
When i open the Video-Manager, click Apply and then EXIT (OK didn't work !), i always get a picture but no sound....
Should be fixed by rel in DD V1.4
ScanMan

[pharos]

Hi,

for starters, what HD networks/sats are you pointed at?

I suspect your looking at the "great white north" sats on regular mpeg2 streams and NOT mpeg4.

If thats the case try installing and using:
- Nvidia Purvideo for video
- Intervideo for audio
- Overlay video render

Your red audio list is because your video/audio filters selected are conflicting...

Setup as above, my x1600 works perfectly on most HD chans...

Also, if you are looking at mpeg2 streams Core/avc/h264 is not needed thats why it's greyed-out on the chans you are viewing...

[ScanMan]

No no, i'm still talking about receiving MPEG-4 modulated DVB-S2 transponders.
I own a rotor and can select positions from about 80° east to 60° west.
Amongst all of the available satellites my fav's are Astra on 19.2°, 23.5, 28.2° and Hotbird on 13.0° - all east postion with footprints on Europe (Germany).

You remembered me to install the Intervideo-codecs from WinDVD8. That works !
But a problem still remains: Sound is about 1-2 seconds late to picture...

ScanMan

[pharos]

No no, i'm still talking about receiving MPEG-4 modulated DVB-S2 transponders.
I own a rotor and can select positions from about 80° east to 60° west.
Amongst all of the available satellites my fav's are Astra on 19.2°, 23.5, 28.2° and Hotbird on 13.0° - all east postion with footprints on Europe (Germany).

You remembered me to install the Intervideo-codecs from WinDVD8. That works !
But a problem still remains: Sound is about 1-2 seconds late to picture...

ScanMan

have you tried switching between overlay renderer and or dx9 renderer?

might help...

also

[aludal]

Hi guys,

I LOVE THIS PROGRAM!!!!


However, I just put in a Sapphire HD 2600XT today and lost my HD playback. I used to run a X1600PRO HDMI.

I use the ATI codec... everything was fine until I chaged cards.

I still get STD channels... just the HDTV is blank.


Any sollutions?

Curiously enough, I've got similar rig, plus my MSI HD2600XT arrives soon.

You sound like everything (H.264/mpeg4 streams?) was rendering fine in your X1600Pro, DreamDVB with (possibly) ATi Avivo/H.264/mpeg4 codec, right? No stutter, no A/V de-sync, really?

If so, it's very interesting and singular result you've got, and I would love to see your working guids.ini file, especially its H.264 section. Also, how could you get *any* of mpeg4/H.264 codecs/DS filters show up in DD as active with ATi/CCC drivers? This one I admit beats me, so please elaborate.

Ati HD2x00 cards are notoriously bad with HD mpeg2 stuff when with stock, "old", or untweaked drivers, see 60+ pages in AVS Forum for a heated discussion of these problems. But they must be absolutely fine for HD mpeg4 streams, so did you succed to render them smooth, correctly scaled, plus with "good" renderers (sorta like VMR9)? What is your choice of codecs/guids.ini in this hypothetical condition? CPU load?
TIA

[no1ninja]

Yes, everything is fine now... I am getting good h264... still 20% cpu use, but I think that will change once ATI developers learn to speak english and can communicate with each other

[aludal]

To: no1ninja

Please elaborate:
-- in DD, what codecs/filters and also renderers and audio filters you use for both HD mpeg2 (I can play these just fine) and HD mpeg4 (screen is black and DD crashes in seconds), so it 1)plays smooth, 2)nothing grayed out?

-- in Radlight (if you used it, of course), did you un-register anything, re-register anything, played with merits to achieve this?

-- Can you please quote your working guids.ini here (or in PM to me if it's against this Forum rules), at least its H.264 section

-- mine is MSI RX2600 XT, that is it has a modified CCC with (maybe, not sure) old -- July 2007 -- ATI drivers. Did you use stock Sapphire 2600 drivers, or just plain ATi drivers+Avivo add-on which might be newer?
TIA

[no1ninja]

Avivo installed from ATI [7-8_xp_xcode_50960]

XP64 running with dual lcds.

I do not use radlight. Maybe I should.


Also I changed my system from 1GIG to 3GIGs RAM. I found DVBDream crashed a lot before... 5-6 minutes and then stutter... and had to restart it (but would need to kill the app... when my mouse was not stuck). The memory upgrade solved all crash problems. I'm sure that 2 gigs would of bee enough.

VIDEOCODEC1=Sonic DVB , {D7D50E8D-DD72-43C2-8587-A0C197D830D2}
VIDEOCODEC1_DESC=* Best for PIP|* Works stable|* Low CPU usage |* Poor picture quality|* Doesn't work on secondary monitor!

VIDEOCODEC2=nVidia , {212DC710-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}
VIDEOCODEC2_DESC=* Nice for multi monitor|* Works stable|* Low CPU usage (even on an ATI video card)|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Generic Video Renderer


VIDEOCODEC3=InterVideo, {0246CA20-776D-11D2-8010-00104B9B8592}
VIDEOCODEC3_DESC=Better picture quality

VIDEOCODEC4=Elecard, {F50B3F13-19C4-11CF-AA9A-02608C9BABA2}
VIDEOCODEC4_DESC=* Suitable for 4:2:2 feeds ||-> Hint: Requires "Reset DirectShow after channel change" option to be activated.


VIDEOCODEC5=CyberLink , {9BC1B781-85E3-11D2-98D0-0080C84E9C39}
VIDEOCODEC5_DESC=* Doesn't support PIP|* Better picture quality|* High CPU usage|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Overlay Video Renderer|-> Hint: Just restart DD if you get error when you change to Cyberlink


VIDEOCODEC6=DVD Express , {145BC783-FC0C-11CF-BE4B-00AA003F29A1}

VIDEOCODEC7=Nero , {DCD6EADC-EE69-47DD-B934-95573296039C}
VIDEOCODEC7_DESC=Nero 7 wont work with DD , it only supports their app.||Try to find and install Nero 6 if you need to use Nero codec.

VIDEOCODEC8=ATI , {37A4D808-E76C-11D2-935C-00A024E52661}
VIDEOCODEC9=DScaler , {F8904F1F-0371-4471-8866-90E6281ABDB6}
VIDEOCODEC10=GPL , {CE1B27BE-851B-45DD-AB26-44389A8F71B4}

VIDEOCODEC11=CyberLink (New) , {8ACD52ED-9C2D-4008-9129-DCE955D86065}
VIDEOCODEC11_DESC=* Better picture quality|* High CPU usage|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Overlay Video Renderer|-> Hint: Just restart DD if you get error when you change to Cyberlink

VIDEOCODEC12=Gabest Mpeg2dec , {39F498AF-1A09-4275-B193-673B0BA3D478}

VIDEOCODEC13=Elecard 3.0 , {BC4EB321-771F-4E9F-AF67-37C631ECA106}
VIDEOCODEC13_DESC=* Suitable for 4:2:2 feeds |* non-HD Compatible


VIDEOCODEC14=nVidia PureVideo , {71E4616A-DB5E-452B-8CA5-71D9CC7805E9}
VIDEOCODEC14_DESC=* Low CPU for HD|* Nice for multi monitor|* Works stable|* Low CPU usage (even on an ATI video card)|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Overlay Video Renderer

VIDEOCODEC15=Cyberlink DTV , {DD1C057A-FE99-477C-835F-3A89EF577C6F}
VIDEOCODEC15_DESC=* Better picture quality|* High CPU usage|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Overlay Video Renderer|-> Hint: Just restart DD if you get error when you change to Cyberlink

VIDEOCODEC16=FFDShow , {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
VIDEOCODEC16_DESC=-> Hint: Requires "Reset DirectShow after channel change" option to be activated.

VIDEOCODEC17=CyberLink ATI , {5CAE8739-5CAA-4484-A06A-A84CF88EC039}
VIDEOCODEC17_DESC=* Better picture quality|* High CPU usage|-> Hint: It will work awesome with Overlay Video Renderer|-> Hint: Just restart DD if you get error when you change to Cyberlink

VIDEOCODEC18=Ligos, {CB51EFC2-40D6-11D3-B265-00A0C9A3A56F}
VIDEOCODEC19=Sonic Cinemaster, {D7D50E8D-DD72-43C2-8587-A0C197D837D2}
VIDEOCODEC20=BitControl, {BECD3686-53B3-4C9E-935F-A69E06BFB44A}
VIDEOCODEC20_DESC=* Poor picture quality

VIDEOCODEC21=Blaze, {3C78B8E2-6C4D-11D1-ADE2-0000F8754B77}



[H264_CODECS]


H264CODEC1=ATI MPEG Vid Dec , {37A4D808-E76C-11D2-935C-00A024E52661}




;H264CODEC1_DESC=* Works stable|* High CPU usage !|* Better picture ;quality|-> Hint: You must use normal priority on HD channels ;(MainMenu->Options->Priority)|-> Hint: Disable "Reset DS on buffer ;;overflow" option

;H264CODEC2=CoreAVC H.264, {09571A4B-F1FE-4C60-9760-DE6D310C7C31}
;H264CODEC2_DESC=* Needs less CPU time|* Poor picture quality|* Aspect ratio ;problems|-> Hint: You must use normal priority on HD channels ;(MainMenu->Options->Priority)|-> Hint: Disable "Reset DS on buffer ;overflow" option

;H264CODEC3=MainConcept Demo H.264/AVC, {7C0D0340-71D5-4E7E-A77F-2059A2E5AF57}

;



;H264CODEC2=Intervideo H.264 , {6931C7E7-75B7-4729-A153-A8AD99BDF7BB}

;H264CODEC6=Moonlight H.264 , {04B31EE9-EC66-4CED-8FF4-A9E7E22D1D8B}

;H264CODEC7=FFDShow MPEG-4 , {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
H264CODEC7_DESC=Seems not to work at all!|| If you can get it to run, let us know please .

;H264CODEC8=Nero H.264 , {C0BA9CF8-96E0-4C34-B5DE-E92C3FC05ED6}
H264CODEC8_DESC=Seems not to work at all!|| If you can get it to run, let us know please .

;H264CODEC9=Videosoft H.264 , {6931C7E7-75B7-4729-A153-A8AD99BDF70B}
H264CODEC9_DESC=Seems not to work at all!|| If you can get it to run, let us know please .

;H264CODEC10=CyberLink H.264 (ATI), {A56EDF13-2F7E-451E-905B-FF9B4859D165}
H264CODEC10_DESC=Seems not to work at all!|| If you can get it to run, let us know please .

;H264CODEC11=nVidia PureVideo H.264, {71E4616A-DB5E-452B-8CA5-71D9CC7805E9}
H264CODEC11_DESC=Seems not to work at all!|| If you can get it to run, let us know please .
;H264CODEC12=T264 H.264, {EAB4831B-121B-4568-86A7-E8058BABA62E}


[AUDIO_CODECS]
AUDIOCODEC1=InterVideo, {7E2E0DC1-31FD-11D2-9C21-00104B3801F6}
AUDIOCODEC1_DESC=* Supports AC3|* Works stable
AUDIOCODEC2=Elecard LII, {2F75E451-A88C-4939-BFE5-D92D48C102F2}
AUDIOCODEC3=CyberLink , {9BC1B780-85E3-11D2-98D0-0080C84E9C39}
AUDIOCODEC4=Moonlight , {E32C3B01-C81B-4D01-8AD4-2B93F7FA544C}
AUDIOCODEC5=nVidia , {212DC700-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}
AUDIOCODEC6=DVD Express , {145BC782-FC0C-11CF-BE4B-00AA003F29A1}
AUDIOCODEC7=Nero , {138130AF-A79B-45D5-B4AA-87697457BA87}
AUDIOCODEC8=DScaler , {F8904F1F-0371-4471-8866-90E6281ABDB6}
AUDIOCODEC9=CyberLink (New) , {284DC28A-4A7D-442C-BC2E-D7480556E4D8}
AUDIOCODEC10= Gabest MPEG/AC3, {3D446B6F-71DE-4437-BE15-8CE47174340F}
AUDIOCODEC11=FFDShow, {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
AUDIOCODEC12=nVidia (New), {6C0BDF86-C36A-4D83-8BDB-312D2EAF409E}
AUDIOCODEC13=Cyberlink (Twinhan), {BB9DFB08-373E-49C6-88F8-C6538589F8D9}
AUDIOCODEC14=AC3Filter , {A753A1EC-973E-4718-AF8E-A3F554D45C44}
AUDIOCODEC15=Cyberlink ATI , {F82C5F48-EB2F-4CFD-A0CC-A05A9763AFDC}
AUDIOCODEC16=Sonic Cinemaster , {9F062738-CD84-4F54-A3C4-BD5EB44F416B}
AUDIOCODEC17=BitControl , {AFD00929-5690-459F-A014-7FCA9C086742}
AUDIOCODEC18=Blaze, {3C78B8E2-6C4D-11D1-ADE2-0000F8754B88}
AUDIOCODEC19=Ligos, {451AD9C2-4CEB-4C5A-BC90-463E4F3C1E0C}
AUDIOCODEC20=Elecard (New), {F6C4C97D-FBFF-433F-B099-B96A12D32391}

[no1ninja]

HD plays very smooth and looks crisp. 18-25 % cpu.

I was going to get the skywalker-1 but no 64bit Windows support

Get the ram, trust me it makes a huge difference. DvbDream was far from stable with 1GIG the extra memory totally ironed out all stability issues.


Oh, I also use vpl** 1.84.

[aludal]

I guess I would need another 2 GB stick of RAM... oh well.

Nothing else helped much. I don't think Sonic audio decoder matters much though, as I don't have it. Other than that I tried to reproduce your config, up to excluding every other H.264 codec out of DD grab -- nothing. Best I could get was jerky picture out of A/V sync.

Using 8.401.1.0 "hotfix" driver though. A next "hotfix", a 9.8 beta (8.411) didn't improve anything: a lot of tearing, and DD crashes leaving chunks of its code in RAM, so restarts crash too.

2 or 3 GB of RAM, plus 3+ GHz Pentium as the requirement for a "hardware accelerated" H.264 decoding in 2600 XT with 256 MB of GDDR4 still looks very very suspicios to me: even if all the codecs and CCC have "Hardware acceleration" option turned on it actually doesn't work, so it's pure software decoding with lots of CPU horsepower and airfiled of RAM.

I believe it's DD fault: its h.264 parser doesn't know a fig abot NA HD mpeg4 streams peculiarities.

I wish I can check it with TSReader, but it works only with vP...g which with the demise of DBVN site I forgot how to put to work in a MDPlugin environment -- it just won't start, or showing zero PIDs, or whatever. Buggy like hell, and always been. And drat! nobody thought about how to marry EmuN...n with TSReader.

Thank you for the first publishedworking NA H.264 configuration of DD detailed explicitly -- not just like somebody quipped: I put it in, and it worked.

[no1ninja]

Just wondering if you have any h.264 files... play them and see how they do on their own.

The X1300 is probably the minimum you would need to play h.264, so with 1 gig I would think you are pushing your rig to cappacity.

Playing a 720p file on its own should give you the CPU implications... than you can figure out the overhead on DVDDream.